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An interview podcast · Since 2023

4.9 from 2,140 ratings

Talk about how things get made.

Long, unhurried conversations with designers, scientists, engineers and makers about the work behind the things we use every day. Hosted by Nadia Ferreira and Eli Brandt.

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Illustrated portrait of Nadia Ferreira wearing headphones
Nadia FerreiraIndustrial designer
Illustrated portrait of Eli Brandt wearing headphones
Eli BrandtScience journalist

Your hosts

A designer and a journalist walk into a piano shop.

Nadia spent twelve years designing kitchen appliances. Eli spent ten producing science radio. In 2022 they rented the back room of a piano repair shop in Philadelphia and started asking people how they make things.

She asks about the object. He asks about the person. Somewhere in the middle, the guest usually tells us something they’ve never said into a microphone before.

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Listener reviews

“My commute is too short now.”

4.9

Average of 2,140 ratings

★★★★★

The bell foundry episode made me cry in a parking lot.

I did not expect to care about tuning bells. Ruth’s voice when she talks about her grandfather’s ledger. I sat in my car for ten minutes after it ended.

Marguerite T. · Apple Podcasts

★★★★★

The rare show where the hosts actually listen.

They let guests finish their thoughts. No forced banter, no ad every eight minutes.

devon_rides · Spotify

★★★★★

I’m an engineer and I learn something every episode.

The elevator one is now required listening for our whole controls team. Eli asks the dumb questions so I don’t have to.

Priyanka S. · Pocket Casts

★★★★★

Beautifully produced.

You can hear the room. The microphone episode explained why, and now I can’t unhear it.

Hal K. · Apple Podcasts

★★★★★

Please never stop. Also, more episodes about food?

The bread on Mars episode was a delight. I want a whole season on fermentation.

Ana R. · Overcast

★★★★★

My design students listen to it in class.

The chair that took nine years is the best lesson on iteration I’ve found. The transcripts make it easy to quote.

Prof. J. Okafor · Apple Podcasts

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